Great site. Much to read and learn.
Thanks so much for all the work you put into this.
Love the powerpoint.

About 20 years ago I was reeling on my face before the Lord because what I was reading in scripture was not corresponding to what many great Bible teachers were saying. I was wrestling with the notion that I was understanding things completely different. This either meant I was so totally off base with my understanding of scripture or so many of the great teachers I had studied were wrong.

With much humility, I continued to look beyond the accepted pre-trib teachings. I had already determined the mid and post views were incorrect, but the confusion of the pre-trib explanation was such an exercise in mental gymnastics it was taking a long time to digest what they were trying to say. It was tearing me up. (Lord, how can anything you want me to know be so totally confusing?)

While questioning the doctrine of Imminence, I came upon Marvin Rosenthal's writings from 1990. Since I so agreed with him on that, I searched deeper and found his writings on the Pre-Wrath view. Instantly, the mental gymnastics ceased and I knew he was on to something. I have studied and tested this view to my complete satisfaction.

I just found your website yesterday and read your entire study. It is by far the most clear and concise study I've read. You have organized the Pre-Wrath view and presented it so wonderfully. Armed with your lessons, I now feel I can go out into the field and present it to those that need to hear.

Well done, and may God bless.

Read your site. Sad to say, same old Dispensational nonsense. For the best understanding of end times, read Hal Brunson's book Who is Israel? What is a Jew? Where is Jerusalem?

When these 3 questions are answered in the light of the New Testament it becomes clear that the Pre-Millennial position will never hold water.

I grew up with the Scofield bible. I thank the Lord daily that He delivered me from such non-biblical thinking. The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. (Rev 19:10) All Old Testament promises find their fulfillment in Jesus Christ.(2 Corinthians 1:20) He is the seed of Abraham and all who follow Him in faith are sons of Abraham and heirs according to the promises. (Gal 3:15-29)

I am very pleased to find that the Holy Spirit is sharing with others the truth about the end times. Recently the Holy Spirit has been pouring out Wisdom and Understanding about the End Times. I have to say I about JUMPED OUT OF MY SEAT when I read your FAQ about how the prophecies are tied together. The Lord showed me that the sun, moon, and "falling stars" are the Key and Revelation is the Key hole. But there is so much more! Hang on people; it is going to be an interesting ride!

God Bless This Site, and its creators.
Matthew Marlow

In my own study, I have been troubled by some of the problems presented by the pre-tribulation rapture of the church (a theory which I have been taught and held my entire life). This study has led me to believe that the pre-wrath theory is the only one that works. Your well-documented and illustrated website has greatly encouraged me in my study.

I have a couple of concerns/questions:

1. I didn't notice any mention of the fact that Paul clearly states that the rapture will take place at the last trumpet (1 Cor 15:52). Why is this not mentioned?

2. You go into detail about the 7 seals and that the 6th seal is "the sign". However, as you so brilliantly illustrated, the seals are just the "latches" of the scroll. The scroll is where the action is. The seals seem to me to be glimpses of what is recorded inside the scroll. The seals do not have time attachments and could actually take place during the second half of the 7 years.

3. Finally, Ezekiel 34:25 and 1 Thess 5:3 indicate that there will be a pronounced period of peace. I cannot find a better place for this peace than in the first 3.5 years after Israel signs a covenant with Antichrist. If the first 3.5 years are peaceful, it would make a lot of sense.

Keep up the good work.

I agree with your view.

I agree with the pre-wrath view except that the rider on the white horse is NOT the real person of the Antichrist but the spirit of Antichrist. All of the riders on the horses are powers to make things happen. None of them are a person. The real person of the Antichrist doesn't come until later; after the rapture which IS THE SIXTH SEAL!!!! Read the sixth seal and when you read where the people are cying out that the wrath of lamb has come they must be seeing Jesus rapture His church!!!!

Great job on your study.I've been a prewrather many years now since being handed Rosenthals book. Have attempted to write my own study as you have. You have done a great job of laying out the defense. The key question is will the church be asleep at the wheel at our Saviors return? Luke 21:34 "Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap." I pray we wake up before the heat of the last hour lulls us into that trap.

I was taught the pretribulational position, however, I have sometimes doubted if this could be the case. 2 Thessalonians 2:3 seems to squash that position because the pretribulational view says we won't know who he is and this passage says we will see him. Therefore, you're position at least needs the careful examination of anyone who has an open mind.

54 years ago in a seminary class studying the minor prophets under a gifted and respected professor, the conception of "The Day of Wrath" was nothing but confusion.

A few years later I thought the description of the "multitude" in Revelation 7 fit the church. I became a closet "mid-triber" then a "post-triber" still somewhat confused.

Much later in the 90's decade I saw the book "The Pre-Wrath Rapture.." Since I had been taught the 70th week of Daniel was the wrath of God I thought it might get me back on track with the "brotherhood." When I realized what the "Day of the Lord" was, suddenly all prophecy cleared up and I came out of the closet realizing the coming of Christ is not imminent but preceded by signs yet unfulfilled.